Report: Cardinal Ratzinger Admitted Third Secret Not Fully Revealed - plus Sister Lucia's warning
16/05/16 15:42
“This is a diabolic disorientation invading the world and misleading souls!
It is necessary to stand up to it …” - Sister Lucia of Fatima
Report: Cardinal Ratzinger Admitted
Third Secret Not Fully Revealed
Secret Warns of “Bad Council and Bad Mass”
by John Vennari
Father Ingo Dollinger is an elderly German priest, professor of theology in Brazil, and a personal friend of former Pope Benedict XVI.
Father Dollinger stated on more than one occasion that Cardinal Ratzinger admitted to him the full Third Secret is not yet revealed, and the Secret warns against a “bad Council and a bad Mass.”
The Fatima Crusader reported this on a number of occasions, most pointedly in 2009. This news regarding the Third Secret was recently re-confirmed by Dr. Maike Hickson on May 15.
Dr. Hickson, who knows Father Dollinger, telephoned the priest on Pentecost Sunday, and he gave her permission to publicly report the following facts:
“Not long after the June 2000 publication of the Third Secret of Fatima by the Congregation for the Doctrine of the Faith, Cardinal Joseph Ratzinger told Father Dollinger during an in-person conversation that there is still part of the Third Secret that they have not published! ‘There is more than what we published,’ Ratzinger said. He also told Dollinger that the published part of the Secret is authentic and that the unpublished part of the Secret speaks about ‘a bad council and a bad Mass’ that was to come in the near future.”
This statement by Father Dollinger was formerly related in the May 2009 issue of The Fatima Crusader by Father Paul Kramer.
According to Father Kramer’s account, Cardinal Ratzinger revealed to Father Dollinger as far back as the early 1990s that the Secret warned against a bad Council and against changes in the Mass.
Yet the text published by the Vatican on June 26, 2000 makes no mention of these specific warnings.
Father Kramer explained: “The elderly German priest, Ratingzer’s long-time personal friend, took note of the fact that when the vision of the Third Secret was published it did not contain those things, those elements of the Third Secret that Cardinal Razinger had revealed to him nearly ten years earlier. The German priest – Father Dollinger – told me that this question was burning in his mind.”
Father Kramer continues, “Father Dollinger said to me, ‘I confronted Cardinal Ratzinger to his face: ‘How can this be the entire Third Secret? Remember what you told me before?''”
Cardinal Ratzinger replied, “Really, there is something more there,” meaning there is more in the Third Secret than what the Vatican revealed.
Father Nicholas Gruner referred to this episode from Father Dollinger on more than one occasion, including a speech published in The Fatima Crusader in Autumn, 2009.
Crisis of Faith
For years prior to the Year 2000 release of the vision of the Secret, Father Gruner’s Fatima Center repeatedly published testimony from Fatima experts and witnesses who relate that the Third Secret predicts a great crisis of Faith in the Church. Here are but a few examples:
Father Alonso
Father Joaquim Alonso, who was the official archivist of Fatima and had many conversations with Sister Lucia, said the following prior to his death in 1981:
“It is therefore completely probably that the text makes concrete references to the crisis of faith within the Church and to the negligence of the pastors themselves [and the] internal struggles in the very bosom of the Church and of grave pastoral negligence of the upper hierarchy."[1]
And further,
“Does the unpublished text speak of concrete circumstances? It is very possible that it speaks not only of a real crisis of faith in the Church during this in-between period [that is, prior to the Triumph of the Immaculate Heart of Mary], but like the secret of La Salette, for example, there are more concrete references to the internal struggles of the Catholics or to the fall of priests and religious. Perhaps it even refers to the failures of the upper hierarchy of the Church. For that matter, none of this is foreign to communications Sister Lucia has had on this subject."[2]
Cardinal Ratzinger
Cardinal Ratzinger, then Prefect of the Congregation for the Doctrine of the Faith, gave an interview in Jesus magazine on November 11, 1984. In this famous exchange, titled “Here is Why the Faith was in Crisis,” Cardinal Ratzinger spoke of the crisis of faith and of the Third Secret. Here he revealed that the Secret refers to “dangers threatening the faith and the life of the Christian and therefore [the life] of the world.”
The Cardinal further noted that “the things contained in this ‘Third Secret’ correspond to what has been announced in Scripture and what has been said again and again in many other Marian apparitions…”
Bishop Amaral
Bishop Amaral – the third Bishop of Fatima – likewise relates that the Secret warns of dangers to the Faith. In a speech in Vienna, Austria, on September 10, 1984, the bishop said,
“Its contents concern only our faith. To identity the [Third] Secret with catastrophic announcements or with a nuclear holocaust is to deform the meaning of the message. The loss of faith of a continent is worse than the annihilation of nations; and it is true that the faith is continually diminishing in Europe."[3] [emphasis added]
Cardinal Oddi
Silvio Cardinal Oddi gave the following testimony to Italian journalist Lucio Brunelli on March 17, 1990, for the journal Il Sabato:
“It [the Third Secret] has nothing to do with Gorbachev. The Blessed Virgin was alerting us against the apostasy in the Church.”
Cardinal Ciappi
Then there is the oft-quoted testimony of Cardinal Mario Luigi Ciappi, who was personal papal theologians to five popes – Pius XII, John XXIII, Paul VI, John Paul I and John Paul II. The Cardinal wrote the following in a personal communication to Professor Baumgartner in Salzburg:
“In the Third Secret it is foretold, among other things, that the great apostasy in the Church will begin at the top."[4]
Warnings from Sister Lucia
We close with some quick observations from Sister Lucia, where she warns of the diabolic disorientation of members of the upper hierarchy, and she calls upon Catholics to “stand up against it.”
The full Secret, Sister Lucia had told us, was supposed to be revealed at the time of her death or in 1960, whichever came first.
In 1960, however, the Secret was not released, and Sister Lucy was silenced. She was not allowed to speak about anything not yet published on the Message of Fatima without prior authorization of the Vatican.
Yet, in 1957, and in the late 60s and early 70s, the years “bracketing” 1960 wherein the Secret should have been released, Sister Lucy seemed to indicate what the Secret contained. In these statements, Sister Lucy speaks of the devil gaining power over priests and consecrated souls. She speaks of the diabolic disorientation infecting the upper hierarchy.
In her 1957 conversation with Father Fuentes, her last public interview that was not pre-approved by the Vatican, Sister Lucy said: “The devil is about to wage a decisive battle with the Blessed Virgin, as he knows what it is that offends God the most, and which in a short space of time will gain for him the greatest number of souls. Thus the devil does everything to overcome souls consecrated to God, because in this way he will succeed in leaving the souls of the faithful abandoned by their leaders, thereby the more easily will he seize them.”
More than a decade later, Sister Lucy denounced the progressivist forces in the Church seeking to downplay and suppress the Rosary. “This campaign is diabolical,” she wrote in 1969 to one of her priest-nephews, “do not let yourself be deceived.” This is from the 1973 book, A Little Treatise on the Nature and Recitation of the Rosary, containing excerpts from letters of Sister Lucy written between 1969-1971.
In these letters, she also voiced strong words about the leadership in the Church following Vatican II. She wrote in 1970 to Mother Martins, a former companion in the Dorothean Sisters: “It is painful to see such a great disorientation in so many who occupy places of responsibility ... the devil has succeeded in infiltrating evil under cover of good, and the blind are beginning to guide others, as the Lord tells us in His Gospel, and souls are letting themselves be deceived.”
It is noteworthy that in 1957, Sister Lucy said the devil was about to wage a decisive battle. By 1971, she says the devil has begun to succeed.
“Gladly,” Sister Lucy continued, “I sacrifice myself and offer my life to God for peace in His Church, for priests and for all consecrated souls, especially for those who are so deceived and misled ... he (the devil) has succeeded in leading into error and deceiving souls having a heavy responsibility through the place which they occupy ... They are blind men guiding other blind men.”
“Stand up to it”
It is no mystery why Sister Lucy was silenced. A voice as powerful as hers making such statements, a voice loved and respected as Our Lady’s chosen vessel, would threaten the entire post-Conciliar aggiornamento.
The contemplative Carmelite accepted her imposition of silence. She understood it as Heaven’s chosen path for her. “I must remain in silence, in prayer and in penance,” Sister Lucy said in a 1970 letter to her friend Dona Maria Theresa da Cunha. “In this way, I can and must help you the most ... such is the part the Lord has chosen for me: to pray and sacrifice myself for those who struggle to work in the Lord’s vineyard and for the extension of His Kingdom.”
Those of us outside the Carmel, however, she exhorted to battle: “This is a diabolic disorientation invading the world and misleading souls! It is necessary to stand up to it …”
Sister Lucia’s marching orders reconfirm our duty as Catholics. We keep the true Faith, the true Mass, the daily Rosary, and publicly resist the destructive Conciliar aggiornamento in any legitimate manner we can.
Notes:
1 The Whole Truth About Fatima, Vol. III, p. 704.2 Ibid, p. 705.3 Fatima, Tragedy and Triumph, pp. 243-244.4 Referenced from The Devil’s Final Battle [Second Edition, 2010], p. 36.
It is necessary to stand up to it …” - Sister Lucia of Fatima
Report: Cardinal Ratzinger Admitted
Third Secret Not Fully Revealed
Secret Warns of “Bad Council and Bad Mass”
by John Vennari
Father Ingo Dollinger is an elderly German priest, professor of theology in Brazil, and a personal friend of former Pope Benedict XVI.
Father Dollinger stated on more than one occasion that Cardinal Ratzinger admitted to him the full Third Secret is not yet revealed, and the Secret warns against a “bad Council and a bad Mass.”
The Fatima Crusader reported this on a number of occasions, most pointedly in 2009. This news regarding the Third Secret was recently re-confirmed by Dr. Maike Hickson on May 15.
Dr. Hickson, who knows Father Dollinger, telephoned the priest on Pentecost Sunday, and he gave her permission to publicly report the following facts:
“Not long after the June 2000 publication of the Third Secret of Fatima by the Congregation for the Doctrine of the Faith, Cardinal Joseph Ratzinger told Father Dollinger during an in-person conversation that there is still part of the Third Secret that they have not published! ‘There is more than what we published,’ Ratzinger said. He also told Dollinger that the published part of the Secret is authentic and that the unpublished part of the Secret speaks about ‘a bad council and a bad Mass’ that was to come in the near future.”
This statement by Father Dollinger was formerly related in the May 2009 issue of The Fatima Crusader by Father Paul Kramer.
According to Father Kramer’s account, Cardinal Ratzinger revealed to Father Dollinger as far back as the early 1990s that the Secret warned against a bad Council and against changes in the Mass.
Yet the text published by the Vatican on June 26, 2000 makes no mention of these specific warnings.
Father Kramer explained: “The elderly German priest, Ratingzer’s long-time personal friend, took note of the fact that when the vision of the Third Secret was published it did not contain those things, those elements of the Third Secret that Cardinal Razinger had revealed to him nearly ten years earlier. The German priest – Father Dollinger – told me that this question was burning in his mind.”
Father Kramer continues, “Father Dollinger said to me, ‘I confronted Cardinal Ratzinger to his face: ‘How can this be the entire Third Secret? Remember what you told me before?''”
Cardinal Ratzinger replied, “Really, there is something more there,” meaning there is more in the Third Secret than what the Vatican revealed.
Father Nicholas Gruner referred to this episode from Father Dollinger on more than one occasion, including a speech published in The Fatima Crusader in Autumn, 2009.
Crisis of Faith
For years prior to the Year 2000 release of the vision of the Secret, Father Gruner’s Fatima Center repeatedly published testimony from Fatima experts and witnesses who relate that the Third Secret predicts a great crisis of Faith in the Church. Here are but a few examples:
Father Alonso
Father Joaquim Alonso, who was the official archivist of Fatima and had many conversations with Sister Lucia, said the following prior to his death in 1981:
“It is therefore completely probably that the text makes concrete references to the crisis of faith within the Church and to the negligence of the pastors themselves [and the] internal struggles in the very bosom of the Church and of grave pastoral negligence of the upper hierarchy."[1]
And further,
“Does the unpublished text speak of concrete circumstances? It is very possible that it speaks not only of a real crisis of faith in the Church during this in-between period [that is, prior to the Triumph of the Immaculate Heart of Mary], but like the secret of La Salette, for example, there are more concrete references to the internal struggles of the Catholics or to the fall of priests and religious. Perhaps it even refers to the failures of the upper hierarchy of the Church. For that matter, none of this is foreign to communications Sister Lucia has had on this subject."[2]
Cardinal Ratzinger
Cardinal Ratzinger, then Prefect of the Congregation for the Doctrine of the Faith, gave an interview in Jesus magazine on November 11, 1984. In this famous exchange, titled “Here is Why the Faith was in Crisis,” Cardinal Ratzinger spoke of the crisis of faith and of the Third Secret. Here he revealed that the Secret refers to “dangers threatening the faith and the life of the Christian and therefore [the life] of the world.”
The Cardinal further noted that “the things contained in this ‘Third Secret’ correspond to what has been announced in Scripture and what has been said again and again in many other Marian apparitions…”
Bishop Amaral
Bishop Amaral – the third Bishop of Fatima – likewise relates that the Secret warns of dangers to the Faith. In a speech in Vienna, Austria, on September 10, 1984, the bishop said,
“Its contents concern only our faith. To identity the [Third] Secret with catastrophic announcements or with a nuclear holocaust is to deform the meaning of the message. The loss of faith of a continent is worse than the annihilation of nations; and it is true that the faith is continually diminishing in Europe."[3] [emphasis added]
Cardinal Oddi
Silvio Cardinal Oddi gave the following testimony to Italian journalist Lucio Brunelli on March 17, 1990, for the journal Il Sabato:
“It [the Third Secret] has nothing to do with Gorbachev. The Blessed Virgin was alerting us against the apostasy in the Church.”
Cardinal Ciappi
Then there is the oft-quoted testimony of Cardinal Mario Luigi Ciappi, who was personal papal theologians to five popes – Pius XII, John XXIII, Paul VI, John Paul I and John Paul II. The Cardinal wrote the following in a personal communication to Professor Baumgartner in Salzburg:
“In the Third Secret it is foretold, among other things, that the great apostasy in the Church will begin at the top."[4]
Warnings from Sister Lucia
We close with some quick observations from Sister Lucia, where she warns of the diabolic disorientation of members of the upper hierarchy, and she calls upon Catholics to “stand up against it.”
The full Secret, Sister Lucia had told us, was supposed to be revealed at the time of her death or in 1960, whichever came first.
In 1960, however, the Secret was not released, and Sister Lucy was silenced. She was not allowed to speak about anything not yet published on the Message of Fatima without prior authorization of the Vatican.
Yet, in 1957, and in the late 60s and early 70s, the years “bracketing” 1960 wherein the Secret should have been released, Sister Lucy seemed to indicate what the Secret contained. In these statements, Sister Lucy speaks of the devil gaining power over priests and consecrated souls. She speaks of the diabolic disorientation infecting the upper hierarchy.
In her 1957 conversation with Father Fuentes, her last public interview that was not pre-approved by the Vatican, Sister Lucy said: “The devil is about to wage a decisive battle with the Blessed Virgin, as he knows what it is that offends God the most, and which in a short space of time will gain for him the greatest number of souls. Thus the devil does everything to overcome souls consecrated to God, because in this way he will succeed in leaving the souls of the faithful abandoned by their leaders, thereby the more easily will he seize them.”
More than a decade later, Sister Lucy denounced the progressivist forces in the Church seeking to downplay and suppress the Rosary. “This campaign is diabolical,” she wrote in 1969 to one of her priest-nephews, “do not let yourself be deceived.” This is from the 1973 book, A Little Treatise on the Nature and Recitation of the Rosary, containing excerpts from letters of Sister Lucy written between 1969-1971.
In these letters, she also voiced strong words about the leadership in the Church following Vatican II. She wrote in 1970 to Mother Martins, a former companion in the Dorothean Sisters: “It is painful to see such a great disorientation in so many who occupy places of responsibility ... the devil has succeeded in infiltrating evil under cover of good, and the blind are beginning to guide others, as the Lord tells us in His Gospel, and souls are letting themselves be deceived.”
It is noteworthy that in 1957, Sister Lucy said the devil was about to wage a decisive battle. By 1971, she says the devil has begun to succeed.
“Gladly,” Sister Lucy continued, “I sacrifice myself and offer my life to God for peace in His Church, for priests and for all consecrated souls, especially for those who are so deceived and misled ... he (the devil) has succeeded in leading into error and deceiving souls having a heavy responsibility through the place which they occupy ... They are blind men guiding other blind men.”
“Stand up to it”
It is no mystery why Sister Lucy was silenced. A voice as powerful as hers making such statements, a voice loved and respected as Our Lady’s chosen vessel, would threaten the entire post-Conciliar aggiornamento.
The contemplative Carmelite accepted her imposition of silence. She understood it as Heaven’s chosen path for her. “I must remain in silence, in prayer and in penance,” Sister Lucy said in a 1970 letter to her friend Dona Maria Theresa da Cunha. “In this way, I can and must help you the most ... such is the part the Lord has chosen for me: to pray and sacrifice myself for those who struggle to work in the Lord’s vineyard and for the extension of His Kingdom.”
Those of us outside the Carmel, however, she exhorted to battle: “This is a diabolic disorientation invading the world and misleading souls! It is necessary to stand up to it …”
Sister Lucia’s marching orders reconfirm our duty as Catholics. We keep the true Faith, the true Mass, the daily Rosary, and publicly resist the destructive Conciliar aggiornamento in any legitimate manner we can.
Notes:
1 The Whole Truth About Fatima, Vol. III, p. 704.2 Ibid, p. 705.3 Fatima, Tragedy and Triumph, pp. 243-244.4 Referenced from The Devil’s Final Battle [Second Edition, 2010], p. 36.
